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By the time Shyamalan delivered his misbegotten bedtime story "Lady in the Water," his messiah complex managed to dwarf even the superficial pleasures of watching someone expertly jerk your chain, and he'd fully descended into self-parody. (The film features a character who will write something destined to eventually inspire worldwide peace and happiness. Guess who he cast to play the part?) And though his latest movie, "The Happening," has yet to screen for the press, there's every indication that his modus operandi hasn't changed: This thriller about various unexplained phenomena is rumored to have a twist ending, natch, and another painfully naïve, finger-wagging lesson at its core. Though I'd guess we're a long way from the ending of Shyamalan's career, the twist to my own personal story regarding his work has already come about. I've officially lost my faith that Shyamalan is anything but a shyster. I want to believe otherwise, but I just can't.

James Rocchi: I think, David, that a lot of Shyamalan's films have suffered from our own expectations; I remember initially being annoyed by the deliberateness of "Unbreakable." I wanted invulnerable protagonist Bruce Willis to stride unscathed out of a flaming oil rig within the first reel, not mope and muddle his way to posthuman power. But later viewings made me see "Unbreakable" not as a failed genre film but as a thoughtful, dramatic inversion of the superheroic tales we know too well. I've jokingly called the movie "Scenes From Clark Kent's Marriage," and although it's hardly the stuff of Bergman, it's nonetheless worth thinking about.

"Signs" and "The Village," too, are about more than their twists; "Signs" was startlingly modest and funny -- a few cheap jolts, a couple of nice phony rousing moments. "The Village" was actually one of the most politically interesting films of 2004, or at least the only recent allegory that actually had an audience; the film's a perverse skewering of both gated-community conservatism and smug, affluent liberalism, as well as a bruising reminder of the consequences of being led through lies.

"Lady in the Water" is an ungodly mess, sure, but a curiously captivating one; as for "The Happening," I'll gladly see it. Yes, I already know the "twist," (damn you, Internet!), but I also know that Shyamalan will fill the film with plenty to enjoy and appreciate beyond that. Shyamalan said he was hoping to make a film like 1978's "Invasion of the Body Snatchers," which means he's at least aiming high. I remember seeing the infamous Newsweek cover and thinking "'The next Spielberg?' Probably not. But maybe the next Rod Serling. ..." Like the best work of the "Twilight Zone" creator, Shyamalan has a knack for spooky campfire tales that combine unreal terrors with real ones. I agree there's a little sermonizing in the work, and a few simple answers, but at the very least, Shyamalan knows how to sell us a little sizzle along with the steak.

David Fear: Oh, James! "Unbreakable" acts like its genre inversion is something akin to gospel, when in fact, it says precious little about the notions behind hero worship, the (super)human condition or good versus evil. "Signs" is a '50s watch-the-skies B movie with a religious subtext that suggests it's to be read as something more significant. I like your description of "The Village," which is 30 times more intelligent than the movie itself; again, the worldview we're being sold here is simplistic to a fault and paraded before us in the clumsiest of ways.

Shyamalan has repeatedly said he values the art of storytelling and entertaining the masses, yet those two things have been the great casualties as his filmography grows. Given their flimsy construction overall, I'll contend that both "Signs" and "The Village" are as much about the twists as they are about the painfully obvious message-mongering. You get the sense that he actually started with the twist and worked backward, so strong is his desire for declaring, "I am the master of the 'gotcha!' narrative gambit, and whatever cheap shots I need to take to convince you of that, the better." Who cares if you're entertained, just so long as you didn't see that one coming, did you?

I was waiting for the Rod Serling reference to come up, because his reputation was also partially built on pulling the rug out from under unsuspecting audiences. Serling not only understood how a trick ending could not only make you rethink everything you'd seen, he also used that device to express a very keen sense of outrage about where he feared society was headed. Shyamalan, on the other hand, uses these things because he knows that, if nothing else, it will attract a certain amount of attention. It's bad enough being told a Big Mac is a steak, sizzle or not; when you can't even enjoy the burger as a guilty pleasure, there's no reason to show up whatsoever.

James Rocchi: Dave, I feel like the world's worst defense attorney here: Your honor, my client stands accused of being a hack, but let the record show he's a competent hack. But Shyamalan isn't just a hack, and even if he were, there are so many incompetent hacks out there that it feels like a relief to run into an assured one. I know it feels like I'm asking you to choose between being kicked in the groin or punched in the nose, but, tragically, that's the choice we're being asked to make in entertainment all the time.

Shyamalan works with great cinematographers, presents challenges to talented actors and, even when the films don't work, there's enough craft and care in them to present something worth talking about. He's a little guilty of believing his press, but accusing a writer-director who's made it through the modern process of big-money moviemaking of being self-assured is like accusing an NBA player of being tall; in both cases, I think you have to be just to play the game.

And, yes, voices from "South Park" to "Ocean's Twelve" have busted on Shyamalan's "Come on baby, let's do the twist" narrative approach, but, damn it, I still think his movies have more than just their big moment of revelation. You get a great sense of the fantastic wedded to the prosaic -- not just the thing that goes bump in the night but the bill that comes due in the morning -- weighing heavily on our protagonists.

"Unbreakable" has a creepy, undeniable visual sense to it -- what Stan Lee would dream after a mean, depression-fueled bender. As for "Signs," as annoying as Shyamalan's huggy humanism may have been, it was packaged with plenty of jumps and jolts, tricks and treats; Joaquin Phoenix's performance alone in that film is worth the price of admission. "The Village" has a few other surprises beyond the big reveal, but more importantly, the movie had a mournful kind of poetry to it. As for Shyamalan's recurring themes -- believe in yourself, believe in something bigger than yourself, help other people, it's better to tell the truth than lie -- after the past 8 years of American life, I'm perhaps more willing to have my ill-formed idealism appealed to, however clumsily, than I am to have my well-shaped cynicism confidently confirmed.

And finally, let's cut Shyamalan a millimeter of slack here: He's made seven films in 10 years -- not resting on his laurels Tarantino-style or churning out "produced by" moneymakers. Say what you will about the filmography, but it's undeniably his, and it's hard to see that as anything other than a win for both him and us. Although Spielberg's first seven films include four classics ("Jaws," "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," "E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial" and "Raiders of the Lost Ark"), his later films include other pieces of vital art and real entertainment.

And I can't help but be enthused about the prospect of what M. Night Shyamalan's equivalent to "Schindler's List" or "Munich" might look and feel like. His affection for sudden change-ups may very well be something he leaves behind sooner as opposed to later -- which leaves the heartening possibility that the biggest, best twist of his career is yet to come. We know the "Once upon a time" of his career up to this point; I still think he has the sensibility, skill and spirit to make that story end happily ever after.

Where do you stand on M. Night Shyamalan: Hack or entertainer? Both? Write us at heymsn@microsoft.com.

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David Fear is a film critic for Time Out New York. He has also written for the San Francisco Bay Guardian, Filter and MovieMaker magazine.

James Rocchi's writings on film have appeared at Cinematical.com, Netflix.com, SFGate.com and in Mother Jones magazine. He lives in Los Angeles, where every ending is a twist ending.

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